I wish I could say this is a joke as many of your thoughts were my initial thoughts as well. Trust me if I didn't believe it I wouldn't have wasted time out of my life typing it out. Just trying to share what I have heard....don't kill the messenger.
Football Candidates
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It is all good friend. Sometimes tone gets lost in translation on these boards. I did not mean anything but was merely thinking aloud. I'd expect an announcement next week. Thoughts?
If Montgomery is a true option it should only be about what he wants for commititments to facilities, lockeroom or other little goodies. Pay the man and let's get started. If it's not him do the same with Farison and start the next chapter at RMU.
Based on what we know, or think we know, which for me is limited to what has been mentioned on this forum, my thoughts are in line with what others have expressed.
However, I have great confidence in the AD, Craig Coleman. I believe he and the committee will make an excellent choice.
However, I have great confidence in the AD, Craig Coleman. I believe he and the committee will make an excellent choice.
For the fun of it here’s what I think would happen if Farison got the job full time.
Defensively:
DC/LB - Alex DeMichele
DL/recruiting coordinator - Chip Coleman
DB/Special Teams Coordinator- Mike Brown
Offensively - this is where it gets interesting these are key hires but have to remember the monetary restrictions Rmu has in terms of paying coaches.
OC/QB’s - Tanner Engstrand ( Current OC at San Diego ) it’s been well speculated on here about his interest and the interest of certain alumni to bring him to moon. Pay the man and let’s score some points.
RB’s - LSH stays on staff and provides good leadership for a stacked backfield.
WR- Pat Shepard returns from time away at Wyoming and brings local ties to recruiting and familiarity.
OL - Colin Haugh - Current Westminster OL coach and for Rmu player.
TE- TBD
Would be a nice staff of young coaches with local ties. As we all know the offensive coordinator decision if Farison gets the job will be the key hire. Will Ben interesting to see the route the administration goes with the hire.
Defensively:
DC/LB - Alex DeMichele
DL/recruiting coordinator - Chip Coleman
DB/Special Teams Coordinator- Mike Brown
Offensively - this is where it gets interesting these are key hires but have to remember the monetary restrictions Rmu has in terms of paying coaches.
OC/QB’s - Tanner Engstrand ( Current OC at San Diego ) it’s been well speculated on here about his interest and the interest of certain alumni to bring him to moon. Pay the man and let’s score some points.
RB’s - LSH stays on staff and provides good leadership for a stacked backfield.
WR- Pat Shepard returns from time away at Wyoming and brings local ties to recruiting and familiarity.
OL - Colin Haugh - Current Westminster OL coach and for Rmu player.
TE- TBD
Would be a nice staff of young coaches with local ties. As we all know the offensive coordinator decision if Farison gets the job will be the key hire. Will Ben interesting to see the route the administration goes with the hire.
I'm not sure if RMU wants another Walton/Bad Rad staff or do they want to break away and start from the ground up.
It will be interesting to see what direction they go.
And this probably the most important in the young program's history. RMU is looking at bigger things than the NEC. Having a successful football program will be key even if RMU has to go independent a few years before finding a new conference.
RMU needs to look at what Monmouth has done and look to follow closely in those same steps.
But lets (in fun) look at Colonial_Fanatic's staff.
Engstrand would be a great hire but I think you have to slap Ass Head Coach on his title too. Would be tough for him to leave that successful program. Back to Back 1st round FCS wins for them. San Diego is a better program than RMU right now.
I can't see turning over the DC Coor position to someone with no experience. Make DeMichele LB and Special Teams Coor.
You hire a new DC within your connections/network.
Not sure if Shepard would return. He is making a name for himself in Wyoming.
It will be interesting to see what direction they go.
And this probably the most important in the young program's history. RMU is looking at bigger things than the NEC. Having a successful football program will be key even if RMU has to go independent a few years before finding a new conference.
RMU needs to look at what Monmouth has done and look to follow closely in those same steps.
But lets (in fun) look at Colonial_Fanatic's staff.
Engstrand would be a great hire but I think you have to slap Ass Head Coach on his title too. Would be tough for him to leave that successful program. Back to Back 1st round FCS wins for them. San Diego is a better program than RMU right now.
I can't see turning over the DC Coor position to someone with no experience. Make DeMichele LB and Special Teams Coor.
You hire a new DC within your connections/network.
Not sure if Shepard would return. He is making a name for himself in Wyoming.
I’ll play along let’s say the administration says go out and build a staff of Farison “guys”
Defensively if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Reasoning behind keeping the defense and promoting AD to DC. They’re aren’t a whole lot of guys with ties to the area that run an attacking odd front defense that has been so successful here at Rmu.
However some guys who would make sense :
Jake Nuelph - Westminy DC
Chad Byers - Dc Shepard University
Napoleon Sykes - LB Navy
If the admin does say build a staff of your own guys I think you see it on offense. Some guys to consider then :
Tanner Engstrand- As has been noted
Ryan Larsen - OC / QB’s @ Stevenson university - very good young coach who has put numbers up at a very good d2 school. Would keep the Maryland pipeline open for recruiting.
Adam Neugebaur - QB’s Georgetown University local wpial ties toutured Antonio Pipken the last three years at tiffen ( Pipken now in the NFL )
Blaise Holzer - Pass game coordinator MO Valley NAIA power. Played and coached at Ohio Dominican gives you recruiting ties back into Columbus.
Luke Barker - IUP RB coach - played pivotal role in justice Evans success as a true freshman.
Once again this is all just hearsay at this point hopefully we see some news here this week!! Go Colonials.
Defensively if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Reasoning behind keeping the defense and promoting AD to DC. They’re aren’t a whole lot of guys with ties to the area that run an attacking odd front defense that has been so successful here at Rmu.
However some guys who would make sense :
Jake Nuelph - Westminy DC
Chad Byers - Dc Shepard University
Napoleon Sykes - LB Navy
If the admin does say build a staff of your own guys I think you see it on offense. Some guys to consider then :
Tanner Engstrand- As has been noted
Ryan Larsen - OC / QB’s @ Stevenson university - very good young coach who has put numbers up at a very good d2 school. Would keep the Maryland pipeline open for recruiting.
Adam Neugebaur - QB’s Georgetown University local wpial ties toutured Antonio Pipken the last three years at tiffen ( Pipken now in the NFL )
Blaise Holzer - Pass game coordinator MO Valley NAIA power. Played and coached at Ohio Dominican gives you recruiting ties back into Columbus.
Luke Barker - IUP RB coach - played pivotal role in justice Evans success as a true freshman.
Once again this is all just hearsay at this point hopefully we see some news here this week!! Go Colonials.
Yep. I'd take a team full of Alex DiMicheles and I think he has a bright future in coaching but he's not coordinator material yet.
And I doubt RMU is going to pry someone away from a successful program across the country unless that person has some other reason to move to the region.
Guarantee you that whoever is hired will build a staff from the region, not across the country.
I was watching the Rams/Eagles game yesterday afternoon and they were talking about the Rams 31 year old head coach Sean McVay. I pulled up his bio and saw that he played at Miami University from 2004-07 under none other than Shane Montgomery. He has taken a 4-12 team that was dead last in the NFL last year scoring 14 points per game and has them at 9-4 and 2nd in the league in scoring at 30.5 points per game. Then I watch the Steelers/Ravens game where another Montgomery pupil, Ben Roethlisberger, throws for over 500 yards. Obviously those two guys are special but you would think their college coach would have a profound impact on their careers. The longer this process has gone on the more I like the thought of Montgomery leading the program.
As I said before Montgomery beats everyone else resume vs resume hands down.
Two years ago I followed the Penguins all the way to the title game and what impressed me the most about his offense was he tweaked it for his personnel. They had two very different RB's but both good. One was undersized with burst and the other more of a pounder (sound familiar) and he complemented them in scheme and calls. The other thing is I believe that every QB on their roster got a shot that season and Wells (?) wound up being the starter. Again, he complemented each QB's different skill set and strengths to his schemes. When Nathan Mays played QB they ran the Q more with zone read and Q follow. When Wells was in the game they were heavy PA pass. Whats more, is they beat several teams they shouldn't have along the way IMO but then again a lot of that had to do with their defense and having two NFL draftees at DE in Rivers and Moss.
Regardless, he has the pedigree but I'd be just as happy with Benzel and Farison.
I believe Benzel and Farison would have an easier time filling their staff due to the fact they can pull in locals but not by much over Montgomery. That is a key question? How much does or can RMU afford assistants? If a guy is rooted at a successful D-II like Ohio Dominican or Stony Brook what is the draw to pull here? Even though RMU is a division ahead if the money is similar there is no real draw. Money always talks.
Two years ago I followed the Penguins all the way to the title game and what impressed me the most about his offense was he tweaked it for his personnel. They had two very different RB's but both good. One was undersized with burst and the other more of a pounder (sound familiar) and he complemented them in scheme and calls. The other thing is I believe that every QB on their roster got a shot that season and Wells (?) wound up being the starter. Again, he complemented each QB's different skill set and strengths to his schemes. When Nathan Mays played QB they ran the Q more with zone read and Q follow. When Wells was in the game they were heavy PA pass. Whats more, is they beat several teams they shouldn't have along the way IMO but then again a lot of that had to do with their defense and having two NFL draftees at DE in Rivers and Moss.
Regardless, he has the pedigree but I'd be just as happy with Benzel and Farison.
I believe Benzel and Farison would have an easier time filling their staff due to the fact they can pull in locals but not by much over Montgomery. That is a key question? How much does or can RMU afford assistants? If a guy is rooted at a successful D-II like Ohio Dominican or Stony Brook what is the draw to pull here? Even though RMU is a division ahead if the money is similar there is no real draw. Money always talks.
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Colonial_Fanatic mentioned that Bernard Clark of U of Albany is a candidate. Albany's coaching staff has a lot of Pitt, Duquesne and RMU connections -
Greg Gattuso, Head Coach, Billy Hurley, WR coach, Nate Byham, TE and special teams coach, Greg Luvara, QB coach and asst. OC. Also, Clark was on Pitt's staff for a year.
Just a hunch, I would not be surprised if Bernard Clark becomes our next head coach.
Greg Gattuso, Head Coach, Billy Hurley, WR coach, Nate Byham, TE and special teams coach, Greg Luvara, QB coach and asst. OC. Also, Clark was on Pitt's staff for a year.
Just a hunch, I would not be surprised if Bernard Clark becomes our next head coach.
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I think Coach Clark is good but I hope is not the man. I prefer someone with HC experience and a winner. Albany went 4-7(?) last year. We already have a good DC who is capable of being HC.
I agree. I'm on the Monty wagon. I just think if we don't go down that road Clark isn't a horrible option.
Seems to be a number of good options. Think it may come down to if admin wants to go in new direction entirely, or keep familiar faces.
Men's and women's lax, men's and women's bball, all hired from within. I know this is a different story with Bannys "resignation", but there is a historical pattern.
Men's and women's lax, men's and women's bball, all hired from within. I know this is a different story with Bannys "resignation", but there is a historical pattern.
If Farison doesn't get the HC position, there are going to be a lot of players leaving. If he stays as assistant head coach or defensive coordinator, there won't be as many but there will be some. The rebuilding period is going to be at least three or four years regardless.
From what I’m hearing it would shock me if farison is named the next head coach.
I’ve been hearing that Farison has been told he is not the guy and he program is going in a different direction.
Farison is a great guy and a great coach and I wish him nothing but the best. The truth is this program has been down for more than 10 years. The likelihood of someone being promoted from within seemed very unlikely. At this stage of a search at any school, there are always rumblings about players transferring. Quite often when the new coach is hired he gets the players excited about a new era in the football program... Yes, some players will leave, and hopefully, the new coach can bring in some players that are better than those that do leave. Go Colonials!
I hope they announce sooner rather than later. I would imagine a lot of guys will be upset about this, and hopefully they can get the new coach in there ASAP to help keep some of the guys that might be on the fence about leaving.
If Farison has been told that he's not getting the job, then RMU has offered it to someone else and that person has accepted.
Farison is the perfect fallback option. You keep him involved until the final round because you know he'll accept the terms of a deal with a little bit of give-and-take. You don't cut him loose and inform him of the decision until someone else has accepted.
I wouldn't be surprised to have an announcement and maybe even a press conference before the end of the week.
Farison is the perfect fallback option. You keep him involved until the final round because you know he'll accept the terms of a deal with a little bit of give-and-take. You don't cut him loose and inform him of the decision until someone else has accepted.
I wouldn't be surprised to have an announcement and maybe even a press conference before the end of the week.
I have been told that Shane Montgomery has been informed the same. That leaves Benzel, Clark, and Scherer as I'm not considering Tyrone Dixon a serious candidate...but at this point who the hell knows.
GoRMU and LetsGoRoMo, do either of you have any information? We first heard Bernard Clark's name on here two days again and now you are both assuming it's him. To go from a name no one mentions to a front-runner means you must have heard some news?
With all do respect, I would rank his resume at the bottom of the list of candidates. He has bounced around quite a bit in his career having 10 stops in 20 years of coaching and has been part of 4 staffs that saw the head coach get fired. Just based on qualifications on paper I just don't see it. So if you have more information, please provide.
With all do respect, I would rank his resume at the bottom of the list of candidates. He has bounced around quite a bit in his career having 10 stops in 20 years of coaching and has been part of 4 staffs that saw the head coach get fired. Just based on qualifications on paper I just don't see it. So if you have more information, please provide.
I do not have any more information more than a hunch. Though, I feel as though Benzel is best candidate of the names mentioned that have not been "scratched off".
The players would love Benzel, I know that.
The players would love Benzel, I know that.
Montgomery is still very much in the mix. He, Benzel, Clark, and Scherer are the Final 4. Hoping for Montgomery or Benzel.
One thing in regard to Montgomery is he has other options. YSU is a good football school and if it was not ideal, he would not leave. With that said, since he is very familiar with RMU he would not apply unless he believes he could win which tells you he knows there is talent on this team.
I simply cannot understand how a DC from a FCS 4-7 team is being seriously considered?
Has anyone on this site disclosed the committee? Does anyone know?
One thing in regard to Montgomery is he has other options. YSU is a good football school and if it was not ideal, he would not leave. With that said, since he is very familiar with RMU he would not apply unless he believes he could win which tells you he knows there is talent on this team.
I simply cannot understand how a DC from a FCS 4-7 team is being seriously considered?
Has anyone on this site disclosed the committee? Does anyone know?
I agree. Montgomery has the best resume of the group. I am sure the head coach at YSU is hard to work for and that Montgomery would love to be a head coach again.
irish_buffalo, do you have any information that leads you to believe Shane Montgomery is "still very much in the mix"? I heard again yesterday from a reliable source that Montgomery talked to someone at RMU and was informed that he was not going to be the guy. So while he may have been in the final 4 he is not going beyond that. Trust me I would love for this to not be true and he still be considered a candidate, which is why I ask if you have any further information. As you mentioned earlier, tone gets lost in these posts so I don't want you to think I'm discrediting you; just curious if you know something I don't.
Additionally, I am hearing that the two finalists will meet with President Howard within the next couple days. The board is meeting Friday, so I would assume that is when the committee will make their recommendation and we will have a final decision.
Additionally, I am hearing that the two finalists will meet with President Howard within the next couple days. The board is meeting Friday, so I would assume that is when the committee will make their recommendation and we will have a final decision.
